Debates
and Public Meetings
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| August
2003 - Andy is asked by the City Council to speak at a lunchtime
fringe meeting during Europride about being lesbian and gay in
the modern church. He debated with the Rev Steve Donald, the Vicar
of Christ Church, Chadderton, in Greater Manchester. The Manchester
Evening News recorded that Mr Donald was booed and heckled as
he said the Bible made it clear gay acts were an "abomination
before God". |
Link
to Christ Church, Chadderton |
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October 2003 - Andy addresses the Historical Society of Trinity
College, Dublin. This is the oldest student society in the British
Isles and is a debating society. Andy was asked to speak on the
subject of gay marriage, alongside the editor of the Irish Gay
News. Opposing Andy were two local evangelical pastors and a speaker
from the Evangelical Alliance. The vote was overwhelmingly in
favour of gay marriage and Andy was listened to with much interest
and critical acclaim. |
Link
to TCD Historical Society
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6th
October 2004 - Andy addresses the Literary and Historical Society
of University College, Dublin. His opening words in the debate
are reproduced below.
This
House Would Let Peter Marry Paul
Address to the Literary and Historical Society of University
College Dublin
6th October 2004
The Rev Andy Braunston of the Metropolitan Community Church
Mr
Auditor, esteemed guests, ladies and gentlemen of the Literary
and Historical Society, ladies and gentlemen thank you for
your kind invitation to me to speak here tonight in this debate
"this house would let Peter marry Paul". I speak
for the motion.
I
work for a church, the Metropolitan Community Church, that
was founded in 1968 to offer a Christian home to lesbian,
gay, bisexual and transgendered people, as well as those who
would define as "straight but not narrow". We exist
because other churches do not accept our full equality as
children of God. Of
course, we perform wedding ceremonies for many Peter and Pauls,
as well as many Petras and Paulines. Each year in Manchester,
in the UK, I officiate at around 30 of such ceremonies.
Gay
Weddings - the Reality
Lesbian
and gay people seek a chance to affirm, symbolise and celebrate
their unions in much the same way that heterosexuals do. For
those of us who are Christian, we also want to celebrate our
relationships with our family and friends and to seek God's
blessing upon it. This is, after all, at the heart of marriage.
Let
me describe a recent wedding I officiated at. This year in
Manchester, the Pride festival organisers asked me to officiate
at a mass blessing of couples. We wanted to reach out to couples
who might not know they could approach churches like mine
for such a ceremony. Until just before the ceremony I had
no idea how many people would show up. As I stepped onto the
sanctuary, I was amazed to see 120 couples before me supported
by 500 of their friends and families. (Including an Anglican
nun who came to support her friends.) The couples listened
to my introduction, to readings from Scripture extolling love,
and then promised to be faithful to each other, to love each
other in both good times and bad, using the traditional words.
They exchanged rings, their family and friends promised to
support them and I blessed them in the name of God.
What
was remarkable was that so many of my people wanted to celebrate
such a ceremony. What was also remarkable was how "normal"
it all was. In a world where more and more heterosexual people
are choosing not to marry, it is ironic that the one group
in society which wants to, can't. I
get angry when I see right wing moralists, like some here
tonight, decry our relationships. I get angry when I see President
Bush try to "defend marriage" by banning it for
gay people. He might do more good stopping people like Brittany
Spears marry and divorce within 24 hours!
Gay
Weddings - The History
You
will hear people say that gay weddings are a dangerous deviation
from Church History. I tell you that gay weddings have always
been known in the history of the Church. Read John Boswell's
seminal "Same Sex Unions in Pre-modern Europe".
He uncovered hundreds of marriage ceremonies between gay men
and between lesbians. He found them in both Eastern Orthodoxy
and in Roman Catholicism. Responding to his work, the Vatican,
of course, rubbished it, saying that he had confused it with
friendship rituals between monks - yet the rubrics of the
service expressly forbade monks and nuns, who were vowed to
celibacy, from taking part in them. We use the models of David
and Jonathan in Scripture and paired saints like Sergus and
Bachus in tradition to show that this is nothing new.
You
will hear people say that gay marriage is not normal. Well
I wonder what normal is. It is normal for me to want to love
and be loved. It is normal for me to want the same rights,
and the same responsibilities, that my heterosexual friends
have. I think this idea of "normality" is based
on an absurd idea that homosexuality is either a choice or
is catching. I never chose to be gay, I never chose to be
left handed. About 10% of the population are left handed,
about 10% are gay. This is who I am. Both my parents are heterosexual,
that isn't catching obviously, so I am never sure why people
think that homosexuality is!
And
you will be told that the Bible condemns it. When we use the
Bible we have to be careful. The Bible prescribes death to
those who work on the Sabbath (Ex 35:2). It says we can sell
women into slavery in Exodus 21:7 - I tried asking my brother
in law what would be a good price these days for his daughter
but he wasn't amused. I read in Leviticus 15:19 that I must
avoid women when they are having their monthly period - the
problem is I never know when they are doing this - and they
get quite upset if I ask
.The Bible says, in Acts
15, that we must avoid meat with blood in it or meat that
comes from animals that have been strangled. Yet I don't see
my friends here condemn eating rare steak or turkey at Christmas.
The
Bible says many things, yet we have to interpret what it says
in the light of our knowledge now, around 2 millennia after
the last words in it were written.
In
Closing
Of
course, I speak for this motion. I speak for it as a matter
of justice and a matter of faith. But perhaps my last words
of support should come from the Country and Western Singer
Dolly Parton, when asked if gay people should have the right
to marry, she answered "yes of course, they should suffer
like the rest of us!"
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Link
to UCD Literary and Historical Society |
Research
Projects
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| August
2003 - asked to help with a Ph.D on Suicidality amongst Gay
Men. |
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| December
2003 - asked to help with a paper on Leadership in the lgbt
community. |
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| March
2005 - members and attenders asked to respond to a questionnaire
dealing with The beliefs and experiences of lgbt Christians
for a Master's degree at Lancaster University. |
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Parliament
and Legislation
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| Autumn
2003 - Our submission accepted in the pre-legislative scrutiny
for the Gender Recognition Bill. |
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Press and
Media
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| June
2003 - Andy appears on ALL FM discussing weddings. |
Link
to ALL FM
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| August
2003 - Jenny-Anne appears on the GMR Gaytalk programme. |
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| September
2003 - Andy appears on the GMR Gaytalk programme. |
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| January
2004 - Andy appears on ALL FM on work of MCC. |
Link
to ALL FM |
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February 2004 - Andy appears on Heaven and Earth Show on
BBC1 discussing Civil Partnerships and to what extent they correspond
to marriage. |
Link
to Heaven and Earth
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| February
2004 - Andy appears on Gloves Off on Channel M |
Link
to Channel M
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June 2004 - Andy appears on the GMR Gaytalk programme to
talk about 'The Wedding' a mass blessing at Manchester Pride in
support of lesbian and gay partnership rights. |
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August 2004 - Andy appears on Century FM talking about 'The Wedding'. |
Link
to Century FM |
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August 2004 - Andy appears on GMR's Breakfast Show talking
about 'The Wedding'. |
Link
to BBC GMR |
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August 2004 - Andy is interviewed at 'The Wedding' by Granada
News and the Manchester Evening News. |
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16th
January 2005 - An article appeared in both the International
Herald Tribune and the New York Times which contained
the following reference to our text messaging ministry.
Dial-a-Prayer,
Upgraded for the Wireless Age
By ROBYN CURNOW,
Published:
January 16, 2005
...Faith-based
phone messages are one way for churches to reach out to
people who might not be regular attendees but who still
feel the need for some spiritual support. "We can receive
text messages from people and I can directly reply to them,"
said the Rev. Andy Braunston of the Metropolitan Community
Church in Manchester, England, a nondenominational church
catering to the gay and lesbian community. "But we
can only send short messages with about 250 characters."
From
his computer, Mr. Braunston sends out individual or mass
texts that include messages like "We're praying for
you" or "You are in our thoughts." The service
started in the autumn and has had moderate success, he said.
"It is just another way to reach people of the younger
generation whose primary means of communication is texting,"
he said...
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| February
2005 - Thursday before Valentine's Day - Andy
appears on Gay Talk on BBC GMR to speak about gay weddings, the
forthcoming changes in the law and the reasons why people want
to affirm, celebrate and symbolise the love they have for each
other. |
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24th
March 2005 - Thursday before Easter - Andy is asked to broadcast
a few words suitable for the Easter season on Gay Talk on BBC
GMR.
Holy
Week and Easter Thoughts
It
is always difficult to be hurt by someone we love and care
for. It is especially difficult to be betrayed by a lover,
close friend or partner. When I have been betrayed I have
felt rage, almost uncontrollable anger and a very deep desire
for revenge a dish which is certainly better served
ice cold. When we are let down by those we love and care for
or when those we think should stand by us desert us we can
be dragged into the depths of despair.
Over
the next few days Christians recall events in the life of
Jesus where he no doubt struggled with these emotions as those
who were closest to him let him down, denied knowing him,
betrayed and deserted him.
Judas,
one of his closest friends, was so addicted to power that
he wanted to force Jesus to lead a revolt. He betrayed him
with a kiss. An act of tender intimacy became an act of treachery.
Sometimes those closest to us have betrayed us with similar
acts.
Peter,
his reliable second in command was so addicted to fear that
he denied knowing Jesus so as so save his own skin. Sometimes
when people have found out the truth about us they have denied
knowing us, being afraid to be associated with us.
Most
of Jesus male friends ran way from him, and were too
scared to stand with him at the foot of the cross. They were
addicted to shame not wanting to be seen with a convicted
criminal. We can understand Jesus sense of loss because
people were too ashamed to be seen with him.
Yet
in this tale of betrayal, denial, shame and despair there
are signs of hope.
One
of Jesus disciples, John, repeatedly described in the
Bible as the disciple Jesus loved stood with Jesus
to the end. He stood at the foot of the cross offering comfort
both to Jesus and to the women who stood there with him, including
his mother. We value love which does not count the cost and
gives of itself.
The
women, who in Jesus day were second or even third class
citizens stood with him, followed him as he carried his cross
and stayed there until the very end. We value friends who
stand by us, despite the cost or the pain.
Jesus
own behaviour in front of all this hatred is, itself, a sign
of hope. He did not get angry or even, but showed love forgiving
those who ran away from him, denied knowing him, crucified
him and even the one who had betrayed him.
But
the greatest sign of hope is what Christians celebrate on
Easter Sunday Jesus rising again from the dead..
God makes all things new. Death and disaster are no longer
the last word. Addiction to all that drags us down can be
broken. Love is greater than hatred. This is what I, and Christians
mean, when we say Happy Easter. And so I wish
you, and all whom you love, a happy and holy Easter this year.
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21st
April 2005 - Andy appears on GMR giving a considered view on
the choice of Cardinal Ratzinger as the new Pope. His main points
are:
Christians
around the world were waiting with interest for the result
of the conclave of the Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church.
Many of us hoped for a Pope who would be more progressive
and who would be able to engage with the modern world. Sadly
those of us who hoped for these things still have to wait.
Roman Catholic Christians see the Pope as the successor to
St Peter charged by Jesus with the same mission to feed
my sheep. This Pope will not be feeding the women sheep
in his flock he has suppressed dissident voices calling
for women to be ordained. This Pope will not be feeding the
lgbt sheep in his flock - he has called us intrinsically
morally disordered with a tendency towards objective
evil. This Pope will not be offering to feed the Christian
sheep of other folds he helped sabotage
the talks between Anglicans and Catholics. We believe, teach
and pray that people change. We can still hope that Benedict
XVI will change, but until he does the pasture offered by
him to his sheep is poisonous to our people, and to many others.
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Link
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| 25th
April 2005 - Andy is interviewed by Jeremy Vine for BBC Radio
2 about the importance of voting, and particularly making sure
lgbt voices are heard in national politics. |
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| 24th
June 2005 - Andy is interviewed by Jeremy Vine for BBC Radio 2
about the decision of the Co-operative Bank to ask Christian
Voice - an evangelical Christian group - to close its account
because of the group's anti-homosexual views. The bank said the
opinions of Christian Voice were incompatible with the
bank's support for diversity. |
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| 3rd
September 2005 - Iain Baxter, Deacon of MCC Manchester, is interviewed
by Mary Harboe on REM FM (Radio Europe Mediterraneo), a radio
station on Spain's Costa del Sol, about his plans to develop Christ
Church Marbella, an lgbt church in the Marbella area. |
Link
to Christ Church Marbella for a sound file of the interview
Link
to REM FM
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| 9th
January 2007 - Andy speaks on Greater Manchester Radio taking
part in the Drivetime programme commenting on the Sexual Orientation
Regulations outlawing discrimination against lgbt people. |
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| 14th
January 2007 - Andy speaks on the GMR Mike Shaft Sunday morning
breakfast show again about discrimination against lgbt people.
Andy pointed out that the opposition is not based on Christian
witness but on pure prejudice. Christian hoteliers tend not to
check the marriage certificates of their guests, nor, if they
are Roman Catholic, insist they don't use contraception; so why
should they be concerned about same-sex relationships unless they
are prejudiced? |
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June and 11th June 2007 - Andy speaks on BBC Radio Manchester
Citizen Manchester on 4th June, and on GMR Breakfast News on 11th
June, about the group blessing of Civil Partnerships to take place
on Friday 24th August as part of the Pride celebrations in Manchester.
An article also appeared on this in the Pink Paper.
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Training
and Awareness
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| February
2004 - We start our 6-session Trans or Not? course aimed
at people who were just starting to explore their transgendered
journey. The course attracted around 30 people, with different
people coming to different sessions. Participants on the course
have indicated that they would like to continue and are being
surveyed to see how often they want to meet and in what format.
MCC will sponsor this group by providing a meeting space and assistance
in finding speakers and technical equipment. We were blessed by
significant grant funding to advertise this course and to purchase
various bits of equipment to help us put it on. This equipment
can also be used for other courses and activities we do. |
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April
2004 - Andy and Jenny Anne attend the Sedgeley Park training centre
for the Greater Manchester Police to help with the management
training of newly appointed Inspectors. They talk about issues
in policing lesbian, gay and transgendered people and answer lots
and lots of questions the inspectors had.
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| Mid-February
2005 - Religious education programme The Loft is released.
Andy took part in a panel discussion on a range of personal, social
and religious issues including homosexuality, inter-faith relationships,
abortion and euthanasia. The programme will be used in schools
across the United Kingdom as part of the Religious Education curriculum. |
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August
2006, Jenny-Anne, Anna, Jasmine and Alison speak at the Society
of Catholic Priests - an Anglican clerical organisation - about
how the transgender issue impacts upon their Christian faith.
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Other
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| 2003
- Representatives of our church are invited to attend a day conference
at the Mirfield Centre on Building Community. |
Link
to Mirfield Centre |
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November 2003 - Andy and Philip attend a meeting of interested
parties with the Bishop of Manchester, the Rt Rev Nigel McCulloch.
The meeting was to discuss the position of lesbian and gay people
in the Church of England in general and in the diocese of Manchester
in particular. |
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| February
2004 - MCC Manchester joins Churches Together in Longsight. |
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| February
2004 - Andy is invited to become a chaplain for the Greater Manchester
Police. Andy was nominated by the GMP LGBT Staff Affiliation as
they wanted to have a chaplain who was experienced in dealing
with issues around lgbt people in a positive way. After being
positively vetted, Andy was appointed as Chaplain to Sedgeley
Park, the GMP training college where he will serve as chaplain.
Andy will have a special role working with the lgbt staff affiliation
across the whole Greater Manchester Police service. |
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14
July 2004 - Andy is sworn in as a Justice of the Peace on the
Manchester bench.
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29
August 2004 - Andy presides at 'The Wedding', a mass blessing
at Manchester Pride in support of lesbian and gay partnership
rights. The event attracts around 120 couples who celebrate
their relationships in front of about 500 friends and supporters.
These
are some of the genuine comments we received from participating
couples:
- My
partner and I just wanted to drop you a quick email to tell
you how moved and humbled we were by the ceremony you performed
over the Pride weekend. It touched us to our very souls and
made us both understand that our faith has not been lost,
just misplaced for some time. The readings were so poignant
for us and having been together now for almost eight years
it gave us the chance to almost start over again as a couple,
a truly blessed couple. Thank you , thank you, thank you,
from the bottom of our hearts.
- My
partner and I got married at Manchester Pride and it was a
most fantastic experience. You and all that helped with the
arrangements were fantastic; we would just like to thank all
that were involved, and say to you all that we are in love
and you all made our day...thank you.
- We
wanted to thank you for the beautiful wedding ceremony you
celebrated for us yesterday, but we were hopelessly carried
away with the excitement of the moment. The service was perfect
and your words and sentiments hit exactly the right note for
us.
- The
atmosphere was fantastic and we still cannot get over the
number of complete strangers who stopped us to say congratulations
and wish us a happy life together - as positive an endorsement
as the number of couples with whom we shared our special day.
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